Friday, September 11, 2015

wk5 - OUR MUTUAL JOY – summary - Miller

In a topic-driven, well-developed paragraph (like Peter Bigelow’s), SUMMARIZE Miller’s “Gay Marriage: Our Mutual Joy.” Clearly identify the author’s thesis and supporting arguments—Miller’s “they say.” Be specific. Use examples from the text in your response to substantiate your claim.


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  1. In Gay Marriage: Our Mutual Joy, Miller is showing the reader everything else that the Bible tells us not to do, but Christians seem to ignore anyway. The title says “Mutual Joy” because other sins that do not involve being gay, is just as bad as actually being gay according to Miller. They are mutual joys but different sins. In this article, Miller compares gay marriage to divorce. He reminds the reader that getting a divorce is just as bad as being gay and yet Christians get divorces all the time but they do not receive hate like gays do. Also, I feel that Miller is mocking Christianity at one point. In the article, when Miller writes, “The boy needed human parents after all.” When Miller says this, he is referring “the boy” to Jesus. I would imagine that this would offend all Christians considering Christians believe that “the boy” (Jesus) died and suffered for our sins. It is apparent that Miller is not against gay marriage or gay rights.

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  2. This article, written by Lisa Miller, is about her view of gay marriage in contrast to other opinions. In this article it begins with a “they say” argument from Rev. Richard A. Hunter. His argument is, "The Bible and Jesus define marriage as between one man and one woman. The church cannot condone or bless same-sex marriages because this stands in opposition to Scripture and our tradition." Miller then answers with two possible explanations, “First, while the Bible and Jesus say many important things about love and family, neither explicitly defines marriage as between one man and one woman. And second, as the examples above illustrate, no sensible modern person wants marriage—theirs or anyone else's —to look in its particulars anything like what the Bible describes.” Miller continues to argue how the bible does not say anything specific to marriage having to be between man and female. Miller closes with a few lines from her priest, “in his heart he believes that if Jesus were alive today, he would reach out especially to the gays and lesbians among us, for "Jesus does not want people to be lonely and sad." Let the priest's prayer be our own.” Overall this article is one person who is not against gay rights arguing her side and trying to educate those who are trying to find an opinion on this controversy.

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  4. This article, written by Lisa Miller, is about the battle of gay marriage and about her view on gay marriage. The article begins with Lisa Miller “defining the word on marriage from the bibles stand put”. She then talks about all the apostles and how they had kids with other women etc. And the New Testament model of marriage is hardly better. When the apostle Paul says “marriage is a act of last resort for uncontrollable animal lust”. Then Rev. Richard A. Hunter states his “they say” on the topic by stating, “The Bible and Jesus define marriage as between one man and one woman. The church cannot condone or bless same-sex marriages because this stands in opposition to Scripture and our tradition." Then Lisa Miller comes back with her they say and two explanations saying, To which there are two obvious responses: First, while the Bible and Jesus say many important things about love and family, neither explicitly defines marriage as between one man and one woman. And second, as the examples above illustrate, no sensible modern person wants marriage—theirs or anyone else's —to look in its particulars anything like what the Bible describes. Miller then argues how the bible doesn’t state anything saying that marriage has to be between man and female. Overall this article is one person who believes in gay rights and argues her opinion and is trying to educate people from her view.

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  5. our mutual joy by lisa miller summary
    “The Bible and Jesus define marriage as between one man and one woman. The church cannot condone or bless same-sex marriages because this stands in opposition to Scripture and our tradition.” Gay marriage and homosexuality is an abomination and is punished by damnation as stated in Leviticus 20:13. The fact that society has gotten to saying that you can be homosexual and Christian is just another thing to turn away from what America and the world is doing. This stuff has gone too far and this is exactly what is going to cause the world to collapse. We as Christians have one judge and that is God, not everyone else. Our word get so twisted what do we really know?

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  6. The article essentially summarizes the changes and differences in the ideas of marriage according to the Bible and modern day theological experts. The Bible makes few specific mentions of same sex relationships, leaving people to decipher the true meaning. Lisa Miller, the author, says that the Bible condemns male – on – male sex, but makes no mention of lesbian intercourse. It also contains many examples of polygamy, but like homosexuality is in style in the 21st century, polygamy was in style during Bible times. In the grand scheme of things, it is ultimately up to the individual to decide how they will handle marriage.

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  7. Lisa Millers Our Mutual Joy is an article on gay marriage and the church. Rev. Richard A. Hunter, a Methodist minister looked at it like this "the bible and Jesus define marriage as between one man and one woman. The church cannot condone or bless same-sex marriages because this stands in opposition to scripture and our tradition." I do not thing that gay marriage should be allowed in the church because God intended Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. Then the article goes on to talk about how the bible says nothing about homosexuality but it talks about that a couple should not get divorced and how there is no relationships in heaven. In a nutshell the article is talking about relationships and how they are supposed to be in the bible. How marriages are supposed to be man and women but the bible says nothing about homosexuality.

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  8. “Gay = Joy?”

    In her essay, Lisa Miller is stating that Homosexuality is not at all wrong. She points out that Jesus was a single man, implying that he has no say in this matter. She also states that Paul was also single and thus has the same problem. However she then, instead of taking the single route again states that Jacob was a father to many sons, and that two of them are the half-brothers of the rest. Again implying that the bible is not a valid argument. She goes on to bash the very foundations of Christianity in Genesis, stating; “If we are all God’s children, made in his likeness and image, then to deny access to any sacrament based on sexuality is exactly the same as denying it based on skin color.” In which she is stating, in a nutshell, that the bible is as dead and irrelevant as slavery in the US. As she bashes Christianity and it’s core beliefs it is almost as if she is saying, “Hey, people are homosexual, if you don’t like it then you are an evil person and deserve to be treated like one.” Whilst we Christians do openly believe that “there is none that is worthy, not one,” she says, “there are few that are worthy, and if you are with them then so are you.”

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  9. When you look into the Bible to see the examples of marriage, there were a lot of fathers and heroes that were Polygamist and Jesus himself did not have a wife. There has been a war going on about gay marriage that has been going on for about ten years. There have been states that approve of this and amended the constitution to prohibit this. There was a pastor that said, “The Bible and Jesus define marriage as between one man and one woman. The church cannot condone or bless same-sex marriages because this stands in opposition to Scripture and our tradition.” I agree completely with this pastor because I feel like the church cannot be obligated to marry a gay couple or bless it. Even though we can’t look into the Bible for a marriage manual, but we can read and use it to live the right we and get married the way it says, which is a man and a woman. The bible is hard on homosexuality but also Jesus emphasizes on the fact that anyone can be forgiven and changed through him. There are some church’s that have agreed to gay marriage which I do not agree with. Even though we are all brothers through his blood, we cannot disobey God’s commandment of marriage.

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  10. The article written by Lisa Miller is about gay marriage being okay. Miller picks out certain things in the bible that give "reasons" to why gay marriage is not a bad thing. She starts to compare gay marriage with divorce, and how they are both sins, but Christians not considering divorce a sin like homosexuals. She also likes to mention how homosexuality is not mention enough as an example to why gay marriage is all right. It is as if Miller is trying to twist Gods words to make them sound modernly appropriate.

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