Friday, September 18, 2015

wk6 - TSIS – Ch. 5 - summary

In a topic-driven, well-developed paragraph, SUMMARIZE Chapter Five:  “And Yet.” Clearly identify the authors’ thesis and supporting arguments. Be specific. Use examples from the text in your response.


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10 comments:

  1. Andrew Griffin
    Professor Kirk
    Freshman Comp. 0007
    9/23/15

    Chapter 5: what I say

    Chapter five is all about stating what it is you say, and “distinguishing what you say between what they say.” If your view is exactly what the original Author says, then you are doing nothing but quoting, regurgitating information that is already spent. However if you mix your own information with that of the author properly, then you sound smart and educated. One way that They Say I Say give to you is to go against the tide; use “I” we were all taught not to use the first person when we were in grade school. They Say I Say, whom used the first person in their templates on page 72, says that “I” can be just as supporting if used correctly.

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  2. Roger Tinsley

    Professor Kirk

    ENGL 1003

    September 22,2015

    Chapter 5 Summary

    At the beginning of this chapter in "They Say, I Say" the book states that "The chapter takes up the problem of moving from what they say to what you say without confusing readers about who is saying what. The example they have in the book states ""We are all middle-class," or so it would seem." The book goes on to explain what the writer says and in this case his opinion being the second part. Later in the chapter it states when to use "I" in academic writing. Next the book goes on to show some neat tricks to clearly identify who is speaking. Finally it shows some templates on how to embed voice markers and not get ones ideas confused with other's views and vice versa.

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  3. Megan Pliauplis
    Professor Kirk
    September 21, 2015
    Freshman Composition
    In Chapter five of "They Say I Say", Graff and Birkenstein get straight to the point. In the very first paragraph, the authors write "If good academic writing involves putting yourself into dialogue with others, it is extremely important that readers are able to tell at every point when you are expressing your own view and when you are stating someone else's." This quote sums up the whole chapter. The authors make it known that most readers get confused when you, as a writer, do not make your own argument apparent from someone else's argument.

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  4. Conner Ewing
    Professor Kirk
    English 1003
    23 September 2015

    Chapter 5 Summary

    In the book "They Say; I say" chapter 5 explains how to express your side and another persons side of the issue without confusing the reader. This chapter uses different examples in order to show you the correct way of distinguish who is saying what. There are many templates located throughout the chapter to help guide you through the writing. When you do these steps correctly the readers will have no chance of confusing who is say which idea.

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  5. Andrew Falgiano

    Professor Kirk

    ENGL 1003

    September 22, 2015

    In the book "They Say; I say" chapter 5 tells you how to explain your side and explain another person’s point of view without confusing the audience. This chapter uses tons of examples to show the correct way of showing who is saying what. There are many templates located throughout the chapter to help guide you through the writing. In this quote “Determine who is saying what in the texts you read”. Which means you need to be specific and use ideas that won’t confuse the readers. When you do these steps correctly the readers will have no problem confusing whose idea it is.

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  6. Jordan Kirk

    Professor Kirk

    English Comp 1

    23 September 2015

    In chapter 5 in "They Say/ I Say" tells us how to distinguish what you have to say from what others (they) have to say. The author stresses that "it is extremely important that readers are able to tell at every point when you are expressing your own view and when you are stating someone else's." We are told to make clear when we switch from our voice to their voice (or vice Versa). Birkenstein even encourages us to use "I" in order to make good transitions in your writing.

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  7. Dumar Camacho

    Professor Kirk

    Freshman Composition

    September 23, 2015

    They Say I Say Chapter Five Summary

    It is key that when you are writing a paper to make sure the reader knows when you are stating someone else’s view and when stating your own. The reader also has to read closely and pay attention to the voice markers. The readers that fail to do this might mix up what the author believes to what the author is summarizing. It would be a good idea to use a template to make sure that every point is clear and the reader can tell who is saying what. You can’t avoid the first person, you will have trouble making the key points of the other author. “When writers fail to use voice-marking, devices like the ones discussed in this chapter, their summaries of others’ views tend to become confused with their own ideas.” You have to make sure you are clear to what others are saying and not mix it up with your own thoughts.

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  8. Nate Holladay

    Professor Kirk

    English 1003

    23 September 2015

    Summary – Chapter Five: “They Say I Say”

    Gerald Graff and Cathy Birkenstein use chapter five of their book “They Say I Say” to clarify how to effectively transition from the “they say” part of your writing to the “I say.” A specific passage written by Gregory Mantsios is examined, and all of the transitional phrases are taken out to show how difficult it is without them. Without templates such as “or so it would seem” and “yet,” clearly help the reader discern the difference in the facts and the author’s opinion. Another name for these phrases is voice markers. Voice markers are speaker identifiers. With the help of voice markers, readers can clearly identify the authors claim on the subject he or she is writing on.

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  9. Dustin Parsons
    Professor Kirk
    Freshman comp 1
    9/23/15
    They Say I Say chapter 5 summary
    chapter fives main focus is to teach the reader how to move from what they say to what you say without confusing readers about who is saying what. the chapter goes on to talk about how to distinguish these things by looking for voice markers in the paragraphs. for example the word yet can be used to show you are about to state your view. then it talks about how to not be afraid to use to word I, don't be afraid to use first person because in fact it could be harder to write something with a they say I say template if you don't.

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  10. Dina Fajardo
    Professor Kirk
    ENGL 1003
    23 September 2015
    Chapter 5 Summary
    In chapter 5 of "They Say/ I Say" it tell us how to state what someone else said and what we say. There were many of examples and templates throughout the chapters. Examples to show you the correct way and templates to show you how. It also tells us that we use "I" in our writings, even though we were always taught we really should not do that. This chapter is to help us to not confuse people reading our things.

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